SWGOH Counters – 5 vs 5

Last update: Apr. 18th 2024
The 3 vs 3 version is here

Counter teams against:

Mother Talzin
Mother Talzin

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Make sure you go first. Kill Daka first, 60 banner. Easy win. Details
 
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53 points - lost snips, but overall easy win. (Accidentally used this team but it worked out well). Details
 
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Zeta Veers + fast Starck...focus on getting Daka down asap and again and again after that it is a piece of cake Details
 
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Chirrut and Baze were g11, CLS, Han, and Chewie were g12 fully zeta’d
NS team was all g12 and fully zeta’d
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All nightsisters are gear 12 and Mother talzin and assaj ventress have zeta.
mine is all g12 except bastilla shan fallen who is gear 11 and parpatine, vador and bastilla shan fallen have zeta
it' very easy to win.
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Nice. My team was much weaker and had no zeta. Details
 
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84k NS vs. 82k undersized CLS. Easy but didn't get full protection. +58 banners. Details
 
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enemy team all G12 with Zetas, my team both R3, easy win, if DR/BSF are faster. DR uses Storm, BSF then Lightning - that's it ;-) Details
 
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easy, enemy G12, my R5 (DR) and R4 (BSF) - storm + lightning worked well Details
 
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This can still be a tricky matchup with the multiple stuns from the other team. Make sure Starck is fast, and open with his AOE to dispel Zombie’s taunt Details
 
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Enemy team: all G12 - zzTalzin, zzAssajj, zDaka
own: G13 GG, G12 B1, G11 B2, droideka & magna G9. Zeta in GG special and B1.
enemy went first. Buff dispel and buff immun with B2. Use GG AoE! Lost magna and Driodeka - GG AoE finshed all at once
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I was 10k underpowered, and still managed to win. First, starck has to be fast, and use special to dispell zombie taunt. Then I focused on Asajj, and used as many AoE attacks as possible.
It can be hard, RNG is a factor.
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Full Zeta G12 NS. Easy win zPadme, zGK, ZC3PO, Ashoka, JKA Details
 
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NS: 108k,  Asajj relic5, others g12, Padme r2, JKA r7, Ahsoka g12, easy auto, 20 points Details
 
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EP R5, GMT R6, Rest G12, all Zetas; against G12 Sisters hit Auto, against Relic Sisters do manually (use Shore or apply debuffs to get rid of Plague, Tarkin's AoE does the job), works against R7 Sisters Details
 
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Didn't have much left, so I used CLS. Easy win, but not really efficient for GA. Might be better with 4 (without Old Ben) to get the extra points. Details
 
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Easy win...take out Daka first Details
 
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FOO gives Marching orders to FOX, who cleanses Zombie. After that, kill the weakest enemy 2x, then Daka and Talzin right after. Use the 2-turn stun on Talzin or Zombie (if u need the cleanse).
If Nest is there, use the 2turn stun on her (so she doesnt counter). To deal with Acolyte, kill everyone first (except zombie oc) and give Marching orders to Kylo Ren now (he's the only one with AoE), that should speed him up even more.
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Use B2 AOE to keep zombie taunt off. Boba execute to prevent revives. Barris can be subbed for any healer that can keep plague from sticking. Focus Mother Talzin and Asajj first for executes. Can hit Nest with execute as well if timing is right. Copy
 
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Easy mode. Annihiliate/Drain Nest, then OD, then auto.

G12 +zeta NS vs G12 Sith+Malak
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All g12 except assaj g13 relic 4
my team gg relic 7 and rest g12
pretty easy win with repetitve aoe from gg
but 2 deaths on my side
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This is an easy fight but the challenge is squeezing out the full protection bonus. Assists regenerate protection, but Nest's counters take it away. +59 banners. Copy
 
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Easy win. QGJ to clear Zombie‘s taunt. As always, twice on the weakest, then Daka. Leave Nest alone for a last overwhelming kill. Copy
 
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Nightsisters all Gear 12, and Zetas. Zombie Gear 11.
My Chewbacca was only 5 Stars and Gear 9, Rest of  Team 7 Stars and Gear 11 + 12.
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It was a safe win against zzTalzin, zzAsajj, zDaka, g12. Isolate Talzin, kill daka as many times needed, zombie was very quick and nihi could not kill optimally, but slowly overcome in  the last 2 mins. All my team was g12 except maul, g11,  greatly workin, no plague could hurt my team as the regain full health regularly. Copy
 
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1) Always heal to cleanse plague, 2) stun Asajj if possible, 3) always kill the weakest enemy until your Asajj is loaded with offense, then use her AoE 2-3 times to take out the whole team Copy
 
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Jengo non-leader zeta makes sure they don’t come back after you put em down (except zomb obv) bossk lead gives health to battle plague. Copy
 
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G13 NS vs G13/12 DR arena team. Easy fight but almost lost Marauder, which would have meant some NS revive. Only 57 banners due to loss of prot. Kill MT first to avoid plague Copy
 
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Strategy: Kill Mother first, dont let her plague spread among your squad members. Otherwise you woun't heal up Thrawn and get only 60)
 
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Against 112k zzTalzin g12, zzAsajj g13r2, zTalzin g13r3, zInitiate g12, Zombie g12, Revan, Bindo, Bastila, g13r2, no gear at all, GMY g13r3 superfast over 310, GK g12, hood gears. Easy win, plague completely inefficient, fast GMY did the work. Kill daka first... Copy
 
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GL12 Talzin/Asajj, GL11 Daka/Zombie, GL9 Spirit. GL Traya, GL12 Sion/Maul, GL11 DN, GL 10 Savaga.
Easy Win. Isolate Zombie. 
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G12 zzTalzin / G12 zzAsajj / G11 zDaka / G11 Zombie / G8 Spirit

Faster Sith team wins.

Stun with EP and inflict fear with Bastilla to avoid plague, take out lowest health character 3 times, take out Daka, finish the rest.
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Nights sisters were faster, got the first 3 attacks. Fractured Zombie, used DRevan to inflict fear on Talzin, took out Daka twice.
Keeping fear and stuns make it easy. 
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Opponent 103k zzTalzin Lead (G12, zzAsajj Ventress (G12), NS Zombie (G12), zDaka (G12), NS Spirit (G11)

my team 84k zVeers (g11), zStarck (g12 @235 speed), Range Trooper (g10), Snowtrooper (g11) , and Shoretrooper (g11) this is a typical win and I've beat higher - this team punches Sisters teams well above their weight class.
Make sure Starck outspeeds most of the Sisters.  Use Starck's "Scan all Wavelengths" and start the TM train rolling.  As soon as possible take out Daka (need to do that 3x if the Zombie has their Unique high level enough) to stop normal rezzes then Spirit to minimize stuns, then Talzin to stop plagues. 
Switch up Talzin and Spirit depending on how you are resisting stuns otherwise Daka (revived) and spirit can keep the team too stunned to do the damage they need.  If you are resisting the stuns well then take Talzin before spirit.

If NS Acolyte is there instead of Spirit that is the last priority.
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101k NS, Old Daka r2. Attacker: Padme r2, JKA r6, lost C-3PO, 53 p. GK would be better instead of rex. Copy
 
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No problem. Keep killing Daka first (3 times), after that, all others (Zombie last). Copy
 
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NS mother and zombie G12 rest G11 - power 98102
Rebel - CLS G13 relic 2, rest G12, chewy 5 star G8 - power 95153
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Nihilus is the key!

enemy: all G12 and full zeta an all. 

my: G11 (Traya, Plapatine, Hermit) and G9 (DN, DS)

easy win, no one lost

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Palpatine+leftover sith that can debuff is hard counter against NS. Copy
 
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Easy win. Took out old daka first then mother talzin. The auto the rest Copy
 
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zzTalzin, zzAsajj, zDaka, Talia, Zombie - all G12
my team: zPalp G12, Vader G12, Thrawn G12, Sion G9, DN G8 without omegas

breach on Zombie, then attacked Daka until revived 2 times. Annihilated MT after killing Daka again
lost no toon, was easier than i thought with this undergeared team
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Bad choice... My BH team was way stronger, but Plague took it's toll... I'd recommend Bossk lead... 50/60 Copy
 
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102k NS vs. 93k undersized JKR. Just make sure to use Master Strategist before winning to maximize health. +59 banners. Copy
 
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Intense battle against a 99k team but Bossk's leadership zeta countered Plague. +60 CS. Details
 
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Attacker: 72k zCarth and OR all g9-g11, decent speed.
All five attackers survived. Surprised the hell out of me.  It may be that the only reason this worked was because MT didn't have plaguebearer maxed.


 
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I guess to many stuns from spirit. In the end they revived everyone with their kills (MT lead) although Daka was already gone.
I regret not having tried zEP instead.
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