SWGOH Counters – 5 vs 5

Last update: Aug. 28th 2024
The 3 vs 3 version is here

Counter teams against:

Carth Onasi
Carth Onasi

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 No zeta 15k less GP Geos could beat the team on auto. Carth and MV zeta. Don't think Zaalbar zeta would have helped them. Details
 
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 Darth Malak vs Carth team. Hit Auto and get 64 banners Details
 
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very easy win.

only lead-zeta on both teams

G12 Carth, Cand, Juhani but lowgear Mission+Zaalbar,

Ewoks G11

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 90K zCarth, zZaalbar, MV, Juhani, T3-M4, all g10 team vs my 73K zzGBA g9/10 bugs. Carth went first and that was it... They didn't get to make another move... Overkill Details
 
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 Works lik a charm. Padme unique zeta and Ahsoka should be a minimum. Padme can be low gear as well. Details
 
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 G11/G12 Troopers vs zCarth G11/12 team.  Focus fire on Carth then use deathmark to bump off Mission. Details
 
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 Pretty easy win, my droids are not geared well, lost B1 and Magna eventually but won 
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 No brainer. Probabaly could win with 3.  Details
 
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 zCarth, zZaalbar, zMission, zJuhani, Canderous. All G12. Details
 
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 Fracture Zaalbar, kill everyone else. Slow your pace, be careful with counters from Juhani and Zaalbar when he's not Fractured. Use Thrawn to heal for full protection bonus Details
 
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Thrawn as fastest fracture Zaalbar. Starck Buffs up. Attack Mission, Ordo or Onasi (the squishiest).

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 They did not get to move much. Fractured Zaalbar.
zCarth, zZaalbar, zMission. All G11 except Canderous G12. Relatively slow speeds.
Figured that Magma might be a good option because of all their DOT attempts.

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 Ewoks still got it baby. +55 banners. Details
 
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 zCarth G11 / zMission G12 / Zaalbar G12 / Juhani G12 / T3 G11
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z Emperor Palpatine G12 / zz Darth Vader G12 / z Grand Admiral Thrawn G12 / Grand Moff Tarkin G12 / TIE Fighter Pilot G12

Very easy battle, but killing Zaalbar is BORING.
Give TM to EP, stun all, then fracture Zaalbar, then kill everyone else beside Zaalbar. Try to leave Juhani last because is sturdy and stealths. The main risk is Mission and his assist attacks. With a dazer this batlle is extremely easy and not only very easy.		 Details
 
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 94k BH vs 87k full zeta OR (all but zaalbar) Copy
 
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zCarth G11 / zMission G12 / zZaalbar G12 / Candy G12 / Badstila G12
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zPalp G12 / zzVader G12 / Moff G12 / TFP G12 / Snow G11

Was an easy battle, try to kill Carth first and fast, TFP need enough potency to achieve the buff immunity and enough speed to go before Zaalbar.

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 Easy win with undergeared team (G11, only R2D2 was G12) against full zeta full G12. Lost Finn and protection on BB8. Copy
 
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 Relatively easy win with 58 banners Copy
 
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 zCarth G12, zMission G12, zZaalbar G12, Canderous G12, Juhani G11 Copy
 
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 Take out Mission first Use Mace, Bast, and Ezra to remove taunts so you can keep going after Mission.  Once Mission is down go after Canderous then Carth, then clean up the rest. Copy
 
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 Teebo over Scout. Period. 
He removes TM and debuffs Zaalbar NP 
Logray goes first. 240+reccomeded. Speed and whatever is fastest. Teebo needs 100%+ potency. 


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 I know, it was overkill, but I had to make sure to defeat them in one battle. No strategy needed. :) (Perhaps stun Zaalbar first with Han.) Copy
 
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 91k OR no match for a 79k CLS team even without C-3PO or R2-D2. As the other dude said, stun Zaalbar. +60 banners. Copy
 
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 Droideka can be replaced by IG-88 as a sub Copy
 
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 Lost SRP in between, but of course he was revived, and then recovered.
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 zCarth G11, zzT3 G12, zMission G12, zZaalbar G12, Juhani G12.
Double tenacity up is quite helpful, plus the heals from Chirrut.
Another dispeller like Sun Fac would be the better option instead of OB.
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 I know it's a weird lineup but I wanted Traya's Compassion is Weakness zeta to counter Carth's zeta. It worked. I don't have the trio anyway. Lost Old Ben; gained 57 banners. Copy
 
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 Too easy. Next time I will not use Sith Trooper any more. Copy
 
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 zCarth, zMission all G12
zPalp, zzVader, zBSF all G12
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 Lost Shoretrooper, 54 points.
In case Zaalbar taunts, keep him stunned (don't throw the sword!) and work on him while damaging the others with AoEs. Tarkin (AoE and Debuffs) or Death Trooper (mark, buff removal) might have worked better than CD.		 Copy
 
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 Full G12 OR w/ zetas vs my Full G12 (except G11 Shore) w/ zetas. Easy win 59 pts (didnt time my addl protection up from Thrawn for max points). Probably didn't need ShoreT honestly coulda 4v5'd them. Copy
 
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 G12 vs G12, typical zetas. Shock and awesome Copy
 
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 G12 opponents. zCarth and zMission.
Fracture Zaalbar.
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 under-geared OR G11-G12 empire team, easy win Copy
 
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 I used Nest g13 R7 solo, tenacity cross
Hit with basic and aoe.
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 zGG, zDooku all G12 vs G12 with zetas Copy
 
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 G: GGzz g12 - b1 g9 (No Omega) - Nute z g11 - Magna g12 - Dooku g12
vs Carth z vao z all g12

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 Take Mission out first.  After that pretty easy.  Once you get Range Troopers Steady ability on everyone they should make easy work. Copy
 
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 Enemy was all G11-G12. Zetas on Mission, Zaal, Jumanji, and Carth. 

Jyn Lead zeta, All G12 except for G11 K-2SO

It was a long battle, ended up reviving K2 and Cassian (twice) with Jyn's AOE. Took out Zaalbar first because i couldnt get around his taunt, then Carth. After that, i focused down Canderous and the rest fell easy. It could have gone either way, got a mix of good and bad luck, battle took 4 minutes but a win is a win is a win.		 Copy
 
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 No zeta's on his team, I had Jyn's leadership on mine. Everyone was G12. Just focus on stacking the debuffs and using cassian to focus them all on one of the tanks, then just look at them funny and watch the 8 exposes do their job Copy
 
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 Long battle almost out of time. G12 NS vs G12 full zefa OR. Copy
 
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 g11 Nute, g9 droideka. Full hp, full protection. Copy
 
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 Typical OR team all g12, all zetas except Canderous.
Full g12 sep team, zeta on Nute.

Had to use GBA elsewhere and these were my only seps left and only possibly cohesive team. Did surprisingly well, didn't lose anyone. Spy is a beast, 120k crits that noone on this team can stand up to. With SF and Nute both dispeling, Big Z couldn't keep taunt up to protect Carth. After he went down, team was picked off with Z taking a 1-shot to the face early on.		 Copy
 
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 60 banners - fun overkill
g12 zCarth/zJuahni and g11 zCanderous/zZaalbar/zMission vs R6 jka and r5 gk fully zetad padme team		 Copy
 
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 OR team not very high gear (g11-12). Nest r4. Probably would have won without qira but didnt want to take chances. Copy
 
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g11 zCarth, g11 Canderous, g12 Juhani, g12 zMission, g12 zZaalbar vs: 

g11 zzShaak, g11 echo, g12.5 Rex and G12 Fives (no zeta on clones). Might be overkill but I needed the undersized squad achievement. Easy 60 points!

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 This 67k triple taunt business doesn't work. +61 banners. Copy
 
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 Just the 1 zeta on eath leader. Carth team was full g 12, FO was all 12 but phasma was 11. Super easy win. Copy
 
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 They were 92k GP vs my 79k GP. Copy
 
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 zCarth, zMission, zZaalbar, Canderous, Shore. All G11.
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No problem at all, although Zaalbar got tech buff from Wat. Keep Zaalbar fractured.
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 All g12 zCarth, zMission, zZaalbar.
Actually my defensive FO dosen't work at all
They deprived us of offence power
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